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	<title>Comments on: NEW STRIP :: Portraits of Greatness: Thomas Jefferson</title>
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		<title>By: Looka</title>
		<link>http://www.dharbin.com/blog/new-strip-portraits-of-greatness-thomas-jefferson/comment-page-1/#comment-1212</link>
		<dc:creator>Looka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 10:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Explaining: I wanna say that what I said above was directed to  Mr. Chris T. 
 
Except for the compliment bit of course. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Explaining: I wanna say that what I said above was directed to  Mr. Chris T. </p>
<p>Except for the compliment bit of course. </p>
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		<title>By: Alexis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read an awesome book called: 
 
An Imperfect God: George Washington, His Slaves, and the Creation of America by Henry Wiencek 
 
which was real eye opener to me.  It&#039;s kinda dense but it was  interesting to read about the complex relationship the founding fathers had with slavery.  A great book for anyone interested in any of these guys (especially GW). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an awesome book called: </p>
<p>An Imperfect God: George Washington, His Slaves, and the Creation of America by Henry Wiencek </p>
<p>which was real eye opener to me.  It&#039;s kinda dense but it was  interesting to read about the complex relationship the founding fathers had with slavery.  A great book for anyone interested in any of these guys (especially GW). </p>
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		<title>By: Looka</title>
		<link>http://www.dharbin.com/blog/new-strip-portraits-of-greatness-thomas-jefferson/comment-page-1/#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>Looka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep! </description>
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		<title>By: DHARBIN!</title>
		<link>http://www.dharbin.com/blog/new-strip-portraits-of-greatness-thomas-jefferson/comment-page-1/#comment-1209</link>
		<dc:creator>DHARBIN!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say one more thing:  I find a lot of value in examining some of these less-attractive peccadilloes in otherwise brilliant or impressive persons, as they help me to locate, examine, and hopefully one day dissolve similar little cancers in myself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say one more thing:  I find a lot of value in examining some of these less-attractive peccadilloes in otherwise brilliant or impressive persons, as they help me to locate, examine, and hopefully one day dissolve similar little cancers in myself. </p>
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		<title>By: Looka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIGHT! 
 
Yeah, he might be willing to learn, but seeing that he did this learning and reflecting on the scale of media i.e. in publishing books, denounces that fact again, no? Because it had an effect in the public, underlining what was seen as normal over the heads of people that it affected. 
Somebody applying racism in a range that gets quite a lot of exposure, should always be aware that they will be discussed and afronted for it. Even if it&#039;s manymanymany years later. 
 
All the more so as these parts of the story have not only passed his hands/mind but, the ones of the editors and publishers which have a responsibility, not in cencoring a story, but in developing it if it flaws - especially in this sense. 
 
If something at all, I want to seperate his great skill to cartoon and draw from this flaw in his personality, and not smallen the racist tones in it. Because he sure would have been the same great if he didn&#039;t incorporate that so openly - no matter if other cartoonists or authors did so too and it was the wind of the time then. 
 
Also, racism is/was always racism no matter if it&#039;s labeled or not, don&#039;t you think? 
 
Don&#039;t get me wrong: I&#039;m no one to internet brawl - I hate that, I just feel there is more to it. 
 
Huff... 
 
 
Oh yeah! DUSTIN: WOW! I love what the larger scale does to your drawings, great stuff... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIGHT! </p>
<p>Yeah, he might be willing to learn, but seeing that he did this learning and reflecting on the scale of media i.e. in publishing books, denounces that fact again, no? Because it had an effect in the public, underlining what was seen as normal over the heads of people that it affected.<br />
Somebody applying racism in a range that gets quite a lot of exposure, should always be aware that they will be discussed and afronted for it. Even if it&#039;s manymanymany years later. </p>
<p>All the more so as these parts of the story have not only passed his hands/mind but, the ones of the editors and publishers which have a responsibility, not in cencoring a story, but in developing it if it flaws &#8211; especially in this sense. </p>
<p>If something at all, I want to seperate his great skill to cartoon and draw from this flaw in his personality, and not smallen the racist tones in it. Because he sure would have been the same great if he didn&#039;t incorporate that so openly &#8211; no matter if other cartoonists or authors did so too and it was the wind of the time then. </p>
<p>Also, racism is/was always racism no matter if it&#039;s labeled or not, don&#039;t you think? </p>
<p>Don&#039;t get me wrong: I&#039;m no one to internet brawl &#8211; I hate that, I just feel there is more to it. </p>
<p>Huff&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh yeah! DUSTIN: WOW! I love what the larger scale does to your drawings, great stuff&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: DHARBIN!</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHARBIN!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are some dangers in being too quick to forgive certain kinds of racism under the guise of art or culture.  To be clear, I am an ENORMOUS fan of Herge and Tintin, and have numerous books on Herge&#039;s life and work, as well as all of the Tintin books in color and black and white--including Tintin In The Congo.  It is not that I am denying that the book has some cultural relevance--it&#039;s just that that cultural relevance is ugly and repugnant. 
 
I think the best value that a book like Tintin In The Congo can have in the modern world is to provoke conversation and examination of the world that produced it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are some dangers in being too quick to forgive certain kinds of racism under the guise of art or culture.  To be clear, I am an ENORMOUS fan of Herge and Tintin, and have numerous books on Herge&#039;s life and work, as well as all of the Tintin books in color and black and white&#8211;including Tintin In The Congo.  It is not that I am denying that the book has some cultural relevance&#8211;it&#039;s just that that cultural relevance is ugly and repugnant. </p>
<p>I think the best value that a book like Tintin In The Congo can have in the modern world is to provoke conversation and examination of the world that produced it. </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tregenza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tregenza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 04:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are wrong to refer to Tintin in the Congo as racist because the concept of racism (as we know it) did not exist when he wrote the book. 
 
What is critical about Herge&#039; attitudes is that he had a willingness to learn and grow as a person. 
 
From The Blue Lotus onwards, Herge went out of his way to depict different cultures as fairly and respectfully as he could. He was not always perfect but he was writing in an era when first hand experience with these cultures impractical. He was very much at the mercy of whatever reference books he could find. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are wrong to refer to Tintin in the Congo as racist because the concept of racism (as we know it) did not exist when he wrote the book. </p>
<p>What is critical about Herge&#039; attitudes is that he had a willingness to learn and grow as a person. </p>
<p>From The Blue Lotus onwards, Herge went out of his way to depict different cultures as fairly and respectfully as he could. He was not always perfect but he was writing in an era when first hand experience with these cultures impractical. He was very much at the mercy of whatever reference books he could find. </p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad somebody thinks about these things. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m glad somebody thinks about these things. </p>
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